Get Creative with Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today! New episodes every week, be sure to SUBSCRIBE!
Episodes

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
From Zero Real Estate Experience to Winning Investor
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
John was an architect in training until ran out of money, joined Army and still there, financially knew he needed to do more. He owned one house and wanted to buy another and started looking into Real Estate investing, invested conventionally for a bit and was tapped out at banks, then found Pace on Bigger Pockets and joined SubTo and started creative Real Estate, helped his sister a single Mom by having her move into his basement and she's now thriving and owns a couple of properties of her own, his mission is to be a buyer for domestic violence survivors, single moms, struggling families, veterans & young professionals. Jordan was the Top Tier transaction coordinator who helped out with John's deal. Her husband followed Pace on Bigger Pockets and 2 years ago they joined SubTo with zero Real Estate experience, She also joined TTTC and she has loved all of the learning and really immersed fully which she says is so important.
The deal they shared is subject-to on a VA loan, pivoted from a wrap to long-term co-living.
➡️ Get in the room where it happens, SQUADUP SUMMIT: https://www.squadupsummit.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Use Creative Title for Your Creative Deals: https://getcreativetitle.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Learn more about SubTo: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/K0ZEY9
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Thursday Feb 27, 2025
From Nursing to Real Estate Investing: A Journey of Growth
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Justin was a nurse for 14 years & retired this past December to go full-time real estate as he knew he wanted to do more financially. Justin's business partner, Eric, was in grad school and became a bio med engineer, married a woman from Brazil and had twins one of which has serious health issues, went into real estate investing with buying/renting Airbnbs and did super well in Florida then joined Gator. BOTH love the sense of community Pace's Community has to offer.
➡️ Get in the room where it happens, SQUADUP SUMMIT: https://www.squadupsummit.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Use Creative Title for Your Creative Deals: https://getcreativetitle.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Learn more about SubTo: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/K0ZEY9
➡️ Official Merch: https://www.brandedbills.com/pages/bb-x-pace-morby
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Thursday Feb 20, 2025
From Banker to Real Estate Investor: Micheal Miller's Journey
Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Micheal was a corporate America guy making good money in So Cal. But he woke up one morning and realized that no matter how much money I made, He was still trading my time for it and wasn't building anything he could give to his kids. Six months later, he left his career of almost 20 years, and went full time into real estate. He learned about SubTo at a conference, thought for sure it was illegal. But he did all of his research and bought his 1st SubTo deal 4 weeks later. Micheal has closed over 20 SubTo deals in his first year.
➡️ Get in the room where it happens, SQUAD UP SUMMIT: https://www.squadupsummit.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Use Creative Title for Your Creative Deals: https://getcreativetitle.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Learn more about SubTo: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/K0ZEY9
➡️ Official Merch: https://www.brandedbills.com/pages/bb-x-pace-morby
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Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Andrea Cannon's First Million Dollar Home in Utah
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Hear about Andrea Cannon’s journey in real estate and how she was able to afford her first million dollar home creatively!
➡️ Get in the room where it happens, SQUAD UP SUMMIT: https://www.squadupsummit.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Use Creative Title for Your Creative Deals: https://getcreativetitle.com/?utm_source=gcpodcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=podbean
➡️ Learn more about SubTo: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/K0ZEY9
➡️ Official Merch: https://www.brandedbills.com/pages/bb-x-pace-morby
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Monday Feb 17, 2025
How Isaac Santana Went from an Uber Driver to a Wholesale Superstar
Monday Feb 17, 2025
Monday Feb 17, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Jordan Whittenburg is joined by Subto student Isaac Santana, who shares his journey from being an Uber driver and bank teller to becoming a successful real estate wholesaler. Isaac talks about his experience joining the Subto community, the challenges he faced, and how he navigated his first wholesale deal in North Carolina, leveraging his technical skills and the power of the community.
Highlights:
"I was stuck in the YouTube world, just constantly trying to learn everything, really, just because, you know, I'm sure most people deal with that too, just anything to avoid the real action that makes your heart pump, getting on the phones and whatnot."
"Having that sense of community made it. It kind of created a safe space so that when I got on the phone, and I would often get on my first, you know, couple dozen calls, I did them on zooms, so other people would be hearing me."
"I realized that it's not necessarily finding people to make an offer on. It's finding people who have motivation, and they're both very important."
"I went to Chat-GPT. I told it what my offer was. I told him, like the situation, and I said make it look nice and professional. I think I put it through there, like once or twice."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:46 - Isaac's background prior to joining Subto
03:55 - The value of real-world sales experience
07:55 - The importance of the Subto community in supporting Isaac's journey
09:45 - Isaac's approach to finding and negotiating the North Carolina deal
13:37 - Leveraging AI to strengthen the offer and build trust with the seller
15:42 - The teamwork involved in the double-close process and the deal's profitability
19:41 - The impact of Isaac's involvement in the deal and the end buyer's plans
21:39 - The skills Isaac developed through the Elephant Challenge
25:54 - Isaac's plans to partner with others and the value he can bring to their deals
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
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Friday Feb 14, 2025
Leveraging Connections: How Lucas Ludgate Closed His First Deal
Friday Feb 14, 2025
Friday Feb 14, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Jordan Whittenburg sits down with Lucas Ludgate, a sub two and Gator student, to discuss his journey into real estate investing and his recent success as a connector in the New York area. Lucas shares his background, the steps he took to get his first deal, and the valuable lessons he learned along the way, including navigating challenges and the importance of building relationships within the real estate community.
Highlights:
"You have to look at every single thing yourself, and you need to physically see it with your own eyes. You know, don't trust what anybody says."
"It was just really getting out of your comfort zone, putting yourself out there. And the funny thing is, once you start doing that, things just start happening."
"The more you put yourself out there, the more that comes back to you, and that's what I've really learned."
"You got to do what you got to do, and here I am putting myself out there."
Timestamps:
02:02 - Lucas Ludgate's Background and Transition to Real Estate
03:34 - Leveraging Previous Experience in High-Stress Environments
04:02 - Lucas's First Deal as a Connector in New York
07:32 - Navigating the Deed Issue and Resolving the Challenge
11:35 - Importance of Thorough Due Diligence
14:46 - Keeping the Deal on Track Despite Setbacks
16:54 - Emotional Rollercoaster of Real Estate Investing
19:51 - Structuring the Deal and Community Involvement
22:35 - Lucas's Focus on Funding PML Deals
26:33 - Overcoming Comfort Zones and Embracing the Community
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: http://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
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Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Perseverance, Patience, and Proven Systems: The Keys to Rob Van Harris' Success
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Keola Keala sits down with real estate investor Rob Van Harris to discuss his creative deal and the lessons he's learned throughout his journey. Rob shares his inspiring story of overcoming homelessness to building a thriving real estate business, emphasizing the power of mindset, relationships, and proven systems.
Highlights:
"One man's trash is another man's treasure."
"Time is a viable asset, and we can always make money, but we can't get our time back."
"Relationships can change your life. You don't have to do it by yourself."
"Money doesn't change everything. Work on yourself more than you work on anything else."
Timestamps:
01:05 - Rob Van Harris' Introduction and Background
06:17 - Overcoming Homelessness and Finding Pace's Subto Community
12:07 - Rob's Current Success and Family-Owned Business
18:51 - The Importance of Laying a Strong Foundation
24:17 - Navigating a Hoarder House Deal
26:48 - Renovating and Flipping the Hoarder House
30:02 - Advice for New Investors: Focus on Self-Improvement
31:44 - The Power of Relationships and Community
33:25 - Rob's Closing Thoughts
33:53 - How to Connect with Rob Van Harris
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: http://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
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Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
The Impact of Trump's Tariffs and ICE Raids on Businesses
Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the importance of understanding politics for real estate investors and business owners. Today, Pace Morby shares his personal experiences and insights on how recent political events, such as Trump's tariffs and ICE raids, are directly impacting his businesses, including a cleaning company, fix and flip projects, rental properties, and creative financing deals. He emphasizes the need for entrepreneurs to stay informed and adaptable in the face of shifting political landscapes.
Highlights:
"Telling a real estate investor or business owner to stay away from politics is similar to telling a farmer not to learn about weather patterns or the seasons."
"If I have people that are in my affordable housing that can't show up to work because they're fearful of the ICE raids, then what does that mean? It means I need to make adjustments."
"It's important for people to understand what's going to happen with your fix and flips. And as I teach people to go buy businesses with creative finance, it's important to understand how to adapt to the politics around you."
"Politics are important, and you should know how politics are and more importantly, you should know how I'm adapting to these types of things and how it's affecting me."
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
03:15 Impact of Trump's tariffs on the speaker's cleaning business
06:30 Disruptions to the speaker's fix and flip project due to ICE raids
09:45 Effects on the speaker's rental business and affordable housing
12:00 Subject-to and creative financing deals and vulnerability to political changes
15:30 Budget cuts and their impact on interest rates
17:45 Concluding thoughts and call to action
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/
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Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Alvin Lee's Journey to Financial Freedom Through Creative Finance
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we have Alvin Lee, an experienced real estate investor, joining us to discuss his journey in the world of creative real estate investing. Alvin shares his experiences with wraps and mobile home park investing, highlighting the strategies and lessons he's learned along the way. Host Ingryd Hernandez guides us through Alvin's story, providing valuable insights for aspiring real estate investors.
Highlights:
"I like to learn through experience. You know, just learning it on paper is one thing, but actually being part of a transaction, learning and going through the motions of it is where you truly gain experience."
"You don't have to know everything in real estate, but you have to know the right people, right? Yeah, the who, not the how."
"When you're doing a wrap, you're actually becoming a bank. So then when you're doing a wrap and you're becoming a bank, you are now held to the same expectations that banks are."
"We're continual learners, so always improving on our processes, our knowledge base, and doing everything by the books the right way."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
05:00 - Alvin's approach to the wrap deal
07:56 - The details of the wrap deal
11:21 - Lessons learned from the wrap deal
15:00 - Importance of the RMLO process in wrap deals
19:16 - Alvin's continuous learning mindset
20:46 - Alvin's goals and pursuit of financial independence
21:52 - Alvin's interest in pursuing more wrap deals
23:32 - Alvin's latest mobile home park acquisition
24:33 - The financial details of the mobile home park deal
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: http://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/
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Monday Feb 10, 2025
Infinite Banking, VA Loans, and Co-Living: A Creative Real Estate Journey
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Justin Tuminowski, is joined by Dustin Geroski and Jill Barkley, two experienced real estate investors who have leveraged creative finance strategies to achieve success. In this episode, they dive into Dustin's journey of using an infinite banking policy to finance a Subto deal, navigating VA loan challenges, and exploring the exciting world of co-living opportunities.
Highlights:
"I love that stuff. And so, yeah, I just started, you know, watching the videos that pace is doing, but also reading the books that he suggested."
"We're looking forward to that. These properties that we're looking at are very good deals. It's hard to cash flow because properties are so expensive, expensive in Broward and Dade County."
"Ultimately we got the lease option, like an addendum, just as a safety mechanism originally, like everyone's always afraid to do on sale."
"It's really cool though, because the seller was ecstatic, like he thought he was trapped. He thought he's gonna have to write a big check, and instead he got, we got like 10 grand or something."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:48 - Jill Barkley's Background and Introduction
02:30 - Dustin Geroski's Background and Introduction
06:16 - Details of the Subto Deal
09:34 - Addressing Missing Appliances
12:27 - Lease Option Addendum and VA Loan Challenges
14:31 - Wiping Away the Debt-to-Income Ratio
17:19 - Successful Outcome for the Seller
20:09 - Co-Living Opportunities and Future Plans
25:32 - Contact Information and Final Thoughts
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: http://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc?utm_source=Apple&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=getcreativepodcast
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/
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