Get Creative with Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today! New episodes every week, be sure to SUBSCRIBE!
Episodes

Friday Feb 07, 2025
From Jail to Millions: Phil Thai's Inspiring Journey
Friday Feb 07, 2025
Friday Feb 07, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Keola Keala sits down with industry leader Phil Thai to discuss his incredible journey from overcoming personal challenges to building a thriving real estate and business empire. Phil shares his inspiring story, the importance of community, and the creative strategies he's used to acquire and scale his latest landscaping business venture.
Highlights:
"This community has been life-changing, honestly speaking."
"If you're not there yet, that's totally cool. If there's not enough pain, they won't change."
"Knowledge is power, but if you don't do anything, that knowledge is useless."
"The Untethered Soul is a really good book for being able to understand yourself, really."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:45 - Phil's Background and Early Challenges
09:00 - The Importance of Community and Taking Action
16:08 - Negotiating the Landscaping Business Acquisition
21:39 - Scaling the Landscaping Business
23:41 - Expanding the Landscaping Business Portfolio
29:34 - Advice for Overcoming Obstacles
34:43 - Using Pain as a Motivator
37:32 - Recommended Reading: "The Untethered Soul"
38:36 - Connecting with Phil Thai
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Thursday Feb 06, 2025
From Overwhelmed to Empowered: Christine Morales' Journey to Her First Deal
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Ingryd Hernandez, sits down with Christine Morales from Atlanta, Georgia, to discuss her recent real estate deal. Christine shares her journey, from feeling overwhelmed by the opportunities to teaming up with experienced students and navigating the challenges of her first transaction. This episode is packed with valuable insights and lessons learned for aspiring real estate investors.
Highlights:
"Sometimes it can sometimes feel overwhelming just because you're like, oh, I want this one. Oh, I want this one."
"I never felt like they didn't want my opinion, because I didn't know what I was talking about, because I hadn't done The deal, I hadn't done this, that or the other."
"Once the contract was signed, it was like it hit the ground running."
"Relying on other people, but holding them, you know, letting them know, like, I need you, like I really, I need to be able to rely on you."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:08 - Teaming Up with Experienced Students
04:28 - The Importance of Collaboration and Accountability
08:28 - Overcoming Paralysis and Taking Action
12:30 - The Details of the Deal in Wildwood, Florida
20:25 - Helping the Sellers and Covering Expenses
22:34 - Relying on the Community for Guidance
23:41 - Christine's Journey Through Multiple Communities
25:09 - Gaining Confidence Through Feedback
26:20 - Reaching Out to Christine for Deals
27:01 - Closing Thoughts
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Wednesday Feb 05, 2025
Wealth Building: Skills Over Money
Wednesday Feb 05, 2025
Wednesday Feb 05, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the power of skill acquisition and creative leverage in building wealth, even with limited initial capital. The speaker shares insightful strategies and real-life examples that challenge the traditional notion of needing significant funds to get started in real estate investing. Whether you have $100,000 or are starting from scratch, this episode will inspire you to rethink your approach and unlock new paths to financial independence.
Highlights:
"Money is the most useless tool in real estate."
"The lie they tell themselves when they're W2 employees, what? What's the number one lie? Do you guys think W2 employees will tell me, we don't have time."
"I'll personally guarantee it. I'll even leverage it against my other assets."
Timestamps:
00:00 - The Tortoise and the Hare of Real Estate Investing
06:23 - The Power of Skills Over Money
09:36 - Creative Leverage: Unlocking Wealth Without Capital
12:36 - Lending: A Reliable Investment Strategy
15:36 - The Resilience of Creative Finance
17:36 - Starting a Multi-Family Podcast
22:36 - Conclusion
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Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
How a Morby Method Deal Turned a Problem Property into Profit
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Ingryd Hernandez sits down with Michael Sanchez, a seasoned real estate investor from New Mexico. Michael shares his experience navigating the unique challenges of investing in his local market, as well as a creative finance deal that allowed him to expand his portfolio. The discussion covers the importance of community, strategic financial reporting, and leveraging innovative strategies to turn problem properties into profitable assets.
Highlights:
"We're creating a bridge here. All of us are working together to find the right team, the right title, the right lawyers, the right real estate agents to just make it happen."
"Because we're hands on, it makes sense for us to stay in our backyard. And with the population growth, there really hasn't been any reason to leave it."
"Shout out to the greatest community in the world, right? It's great."
"You get these huge numbers whenever you buy a house and sell a house in the same year. That's all revenue that you could show instead of them wiping it out."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:13 - Introducing Michael Sanchez and His Real Estate Communities
02:18 - Challenges and Opportunities of Investing in New Mexico
06:15 - Implementing the Morbi Method in a Creative Finance Deal
10:31 - A Smooth Eviction Process and Property Renovation
12:36 - Understanding the Mechanics of the Morbi Method
15:19 - Navigating DSCR Loan Challenges
17:45 - The Importance of Proactive Financial Reporting
21:33 - Staying Focused on the Local New Mexico Market
22:43 - Closing Remarks
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Monday Feb 03, 2025
Monday Feb 03, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with Ja’el and Stacey Thomas, a mother-daughter duo who are dominating the Virginia and Southeast sun belt real estate markets. They share their inspiring story of transitioning from corporate careers to becoming successful real estate investors, leveraging the power of community and collaboration to achieve remarkable deals and help others in the process.
Highlights:
"Collaboration over competition. We pay it forward, pay it backwards, pay it sideways, pay it all the way around."
"We can't do this without each other, without a team of people, like-minded individuals, that are ready to take action."
"We're laser-focused about taking action and making an impact in our communities and beyond."
"We're big on quantity. We're not pressed about getting this huge amount from every single deal. It's about doing more deals and having an abundance mindset."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:05 - Ja’el and Stacey's Background and Initial Struggles
06:25 - First Successful Deal and Community Support
09:36 - Meeting Paul and Building a Team
13:03 - Negotiating and Closing the Deal
16:02 - Focusing on Win-Win Solutions
18:20 - Pricing the Deal and Selecting the Buyer
22:00 - Leveraging the Community's Expertise
24:32 - Expanding the Community and Future Plans
29:57 - Final Thoughts and Contact Information
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Friday Jan 31, 2025
Vetting Borrowers and Building Partnerships in Real Estate
Friday Jan 31, 2025
Friday Jan 31, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Jordan Whittenburg, sits down with Jamie Stone, a real estate investor based in Portland, Oregon, to discuss his journey into private money lending and the valuable lessons he's learned along the way. Jamie shares his experiences within the Gator Tribe and Subto communities, highlighting the importance of vetting borrowers, building partnerships, and diversifying your investment strategies.
Highlights:
"If you're tired of sitting on the sidelines, it's time to secure your first deal. Join our thriving community of winners who take action and make their mark in the real estate industry."
"I think most, I would guarantee, most people, their investments would probably be the fund that's kind of targeted towards their age of retirement."
"If you can't get someone to go there, what you can do is get the borrower to go out on the street and show the houses on the street, to show the mailbox, and then show them walking in from the mailbox as proof."
"You can't do everything, and it's better to be focused, is what I'm learning."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:53 - Jamie Stone's Background and Transition to Real Estate
03:49 - The Appeal of Private Money Lending
07:12 - Successful Deal in Jackson, Georgia
11:04 - Navigating Challenges and Lessons Learned
15:57 - Importance of Vetting Borrowers
20:34 - Strategies for Vetting Borrowers
23:54 - Leveraging the Gator and Subto Communities
27:55 - Future Focus and Partnering Opportunities
30:04 - Conclusion
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Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Leveraging Subject-To Strategies: How Brandon Miller Turned a $230K Profit
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we're joined by Brandon Miller, a seasoned real estate investor from Peoria, Arizona, who specializes in wholesale real estate and subject-to strategies. Brandon shares his inspiring journey, from his first fix-and-flip in 2015 to his recent $230,000 profit on a subject-to deal. He also discusses how he navigated a low-equity on-market deal, leveraging creative financing to help the seller and find a perfect fit for the property.
Highlights:
"I love getting things under contract subject to creative financing."
"The solution, that's what I bring. Hey, you want to move out, you want to release responsibility for your loan and the property? I'm willing to take that on."
"I wanted to make money. I always want to make money. And I charged them $4,000 for my whole selfie."
"Get off the fence. You know, get going. Get the education. Plug yourself in."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - Brandon's Real Estate Journey
04:02 - Finding Pace and the Subject-To Strategy
07:03 - Explaining a Low-Equity On-Market Deal
10:44 - Negotiating with the Agent
14:37 - Securing the Seller with a Performance Deed
17:22 - Structuring the Deal to Benefit All Parties
20:00 - Finding the End Buyer and Generating Additional Income
23:46 - Overcoming Challenges in the Real Estate Business
26:40 - The Importance of Consistent Practice and Preparation
30:00 - Advice for Aspiring Real Estate Investors
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Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Pace's Playbook: Structuring a Win-Win Business Takeover
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we follow along as Pace, an experienced real estate and business investor, steps in to help Ashley Delaney restructure a cash deal for a pet boarding business in Flagstaff. Pace demonstrates his expertise in creative financing, guiding the seller and Ashley through a more favorable owner-financing arrangement that benefits all parties involved.
Highlights:
"Action takers get rewarded in this video."
"I don't ever underwrite before I make a call. How can a spreadsheet tell you what's going on with the seller?"
"If you're not nervous, you're not doing it right."
"I want to make it a good deal for everybody, because then everybody wins and it's sustainable."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Dismantling a Cash Deal
01:13 - Seeking Help from the Subto Community
03:24 - Pace's Approach: Gathering Information
07:26 - Understanding the Seller's Situation
11:50 - Pace's Role and Financing Expertise
15:43 - Restructuring the Deal: Owner Financing
19:59 - Retaining Key Employees and Consulting
23:34 - Protecting the Seller and Structuring Payments
27:14 - Percentage-Based Profit Sharing
32:38 - Conclusion
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Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Bridging the Gap: Helping Newcomers Succeed in Creative Finance
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Ingryd Hernandez, is joined by Mike Jackson, a seasoned real estate investor and member of the Gator and Subto communities. In this episode, they dive into a creative real estate deal that involved multiple community members, showcasing the power of collaboration and inclusive strategies in the industry.
Highlights:
"If they have an entrepreneurial spirit, and an entrepreneurial spirit tends to be one that sides on action taken, I would say yes [to pursuing alternative paths over traditional college]."
"The beauty of this transaction was that we were able to get into it for a very, very low entry fee compared to what the purchase price was."
"We were able to help so many people do it, and that's what we really love doing."
"If you've never done a creative deal, if you've never done a real estate deal, maybe outside of your own home, to do the first one, maybe five, maybe even 10, with somebody who's experienced doing it."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
03:27 - Discussing the value of entrepreneurial paths VS traditional education
06:12 - The freedom and flexibility of being an investor
08:41 - Introducing the creative real estate deal
09:40 - Leveraging the "baby elephants" in the Subto community
10:43 - Details of the Menifee, California property acquisition
11:49 - Wholesaling the property to a Subto member
14:54 - Breakdown of the deal's financials
17:31 - Achieving a record assignment fee for a creative Subto wholesale
20:00 - Mike's approach to JV partnerships and helping newcomers in the industry
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Monday Jan 27, 2025
From $0 to $50K a Month: Darina Aleksa’s Real Estate Secrets
Monday Jan 27, 2025
Monday Jan 27, 2025
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, our host Ingryd Hernandez is joined by special guest Darina Aleksa, a real estate expert and leader in creative finance. Darina shares her journey of moving to the U.S., building a career in real estate, and helping people solve difficult housing problems. You’ll hear how she’s helped over 100 deals come together, supported seniors transitioning to assisted living, and built strong communities for real estate collaboration. Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with practical tips.Highlights:"Creative finance gave me two homes, one in Minnesota and one in Tampa!"
"Some of our students earn $50,000 a month doing transaction coordination."
"This deal wasn’t just about money; it was about helping someone in need."
"You don’t need to know everything, just connect with the right people."Timestamps:00:00 Starting the Journey in Creative Finance
01:28 From Ukraine to Real Estate Success
02:37 Joining Communities That Change Lives
03:56 A Unique Real Estate Deal in Minnesota
06:35 Supporting Seniors Through Real Estate Solutions
09:54 The Challenges Seniors Face When Selling Homes
12:25 Resolving Misunderstandings After Closing
15:08 Why Community Collaboration Matters
17:16 100 Deals in Two Years: Lessons Learned
21:28 How to Connect with Darina Aleksa► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:
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